I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. 5 Testers Needed! Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. Physics First. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. Spin Rate 2,645.8 Does that make sense? Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI [/color] The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Im your AMA although Im trending down. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . %PDF-1.5 timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. My average distance was 235-245. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? Thanks for posting. [/quote] The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. No question - 100%. why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. Hang Time 5.8 [quote name='swanry30' timestamp='1364407652' post='6707945'] [/quote] Justin is that really you?? This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. [/quote] Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. I would have guessed #1 because of the "low spin" mantra, even though the launch is a touch low. [/quote] Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Ive tried this with many people and they shoot about their handicap. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. I also shot 86. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340 Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. What Irons Do the Pros Use? X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. I don't measure my driver distance either. On average PGA pros hit a 3-iron a carry distance the distance from strike to point of ground impact of 217 yards. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. Carry Distance 302.9 I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Yes! Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Lol, so true.. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Thanks for the post. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. also his AoD on the stinger. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) Does the AMA truly know how far each of their clubs carries? When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Try a par 3 course (18 holes) of any length and compare your results to your handicap. You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? I would say probably is bs. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? [/quote] How to gain more distance without swinging faster? Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. endobj [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). What was the actual value of swing speed group 105 mph+, since it shows 0%. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. [/quote] 712u 3 I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. You can post now and register later. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) It should make you a little. Does Trackman update this data each year? Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . The data results given in this article are completely skewed. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] [/quote] To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. [/quote] WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 [/quote] The longest player hits it 320 yards I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. [/quote] Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! Top 50 Pros Analysis. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. My average club separation is about 15 yards. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Club head speed is around 90 MPH giving me a distance of 214 yrds. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! [/quote] Thanks! x]I]618nI9^R? Your link has been automatically embedded. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Pasted as rich text. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. God how I loved playing golf. 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Dont think they ever release that stuff. This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? 6 0 obj [/color] 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? [/quote] I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Everyone has one. Is a soft ball for club head speed of 90 MPH with the driver better than a hard ball? That's what I think. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] T 'enG~q/Om\#Q`{ HLRpC45`|NiG*"2agUTeu9d10S8xl?O`,`~ja~=j'(d~e?7UN+&iHPI=8NQQ={"K9R1d"3j$NJd[?@fUM)IxJ)Sn-bcVk7*"d9;&!0tB%=7$W&q&:L^q1|T]6k)SF ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. STEAL THESE FROM ME! beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! Top 50 Player Guide. 3. PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. Learn how your comment data is processed. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. It's good for some laughs. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. [/quote] The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Sorry for the ramble. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. The title would be just as useful as well. Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Only 0.4% of the average male amateur population is above a club speed of 115 mph. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Have a look at his numbers. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas ! I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. [/quote] [/quote] 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. Dont think they ever release that stuff. Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk.
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