The range of times was from 8.2 seconds to 6.17 seconds with most of them coming in at around 7.3 seconds. Make sure sprinting is timed. Why don't people run the hundred YARD dash anymore? Develop, fun, develop, fun, age appropriate coaches, and programs that are focused on developing will help your son immensely. What skill sets should individual position players have? They waste their time and money and we lose all credibility. As a sophomore, T.J. again quarterbacked his group to a 9-0 season. Age 6 40yd 7.19, LJ 83, Softball Throw 694, Turbo Javelin 2510 Before kids read Charlottes Web, their baseball teams have traveled to out-of-state tournaments. Softball message board with discussions on softball hitting, softball pitching, coaching youth softball and where you can get softball drills and softball tips. Just try to hold his temptation where he actually wants to do more of it. The biggest issue with the little kids has been the size of the field and swinging the BBCOR bat. How fast can Usain Bolt run the 40 yard dash? Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach, shares how athletes can catch the attention of college coaches in the video below. I tried training him for sprinting, but he mostly wants to have fun on the race track and wants to race whoever is jogging on the race track. I informally timed my 12u CF (2022)with an 8.0. Parents invest. I feed the flame and it becomes fire, I feed the fire and it becomes a roaring blaze" - Cus D'Amato, 1908-1985. Twitter blowing up about 7th grade rankings, Other Softball Gear and Training Tools for Sale. You might as well be wearing ankle weights (dont wear ankle weights either). Give me a guy who runs 25 mph, and acceleration will be learned quickly. Sorry about the link. 20 yard bear crawl is a good measure of body strength, agility/dexterity, and core strength. Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. I would also mention that if you have the opportunity to see players race against each other at the 20 yard distance, it's helpful. They were 10 last year. Clayton comes from an athletic family and has played soccer, baseball, and flag football. I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. Jan 3, 2012. Interesting information. SF. D.K. Is that good? 3.9-4.0 you are looking at a 4.9-5.1I ran a 4.46 electronic in high school at the Nike combine and my 10 yard split was 1.50. Amazing! Any 17u teams in Illinois I can still register and play for this summer? Ive found the opposite to be true. More people are reading SimpliFaster than ever, and each week we bring you compelling content from coaches, sport scientists, and physiotherapists who are devoted to building better athletes. That is, there are far fewer players attending PG showcases and having a 60 time recorded at the younger age than the metrics reported in the older ages. Parents strategize. They (we) time 40yds wrong, but not more than 0.3 unless its intentional or timed by an observer. Our favorite two segments to analyze are 0-20 and 10-40, and the formula for success is uncomplicated: ii.lxx seconds from 0-20 yards and three.00 seconds from ten-forty yards. Their age at the time of testing plays a big part of their results since one year to a 6 or 7 year old can mean a lot of growth and progress. Her time splits if anyone is interested for comparison were; 10 yard- 1.8 seconds. 10 and 20 are what I look at the most when I eval kids. What happens now in terms of my recruiting process? You might see this as a natural relationship between a football coach and a track coach, but its often the opposite. Is that 20 yards, which is equal to 60 feet? Training hard seven days a week will make athletes slow and trainers rich. They said that any 20 yard dash time 3.0 and below was fast. Each time he focused and trained for only one thing, for example he trained hard and only focused on his 60 time for one of the showcases, only focused on getting his pop time down for another showcase. Its 8th grade so its a crap shoot every year. Age 8 40yd 6.17, LJ 1010, SB Throw 103 2, Turbo Jav 382 Without sprint training, soccer breeds horrible sprint mechanics and slow runners. ?. Here's the crazy thing. Smoke, he met with the coach once, then worked out maybe 4 times on his own. Last week, when I told a track coach to bring their football coach to TFC-4, the track coach replied, We have a better chance of developing cold fusion.. They are going to be following up with their coach(es) to see how seriously they take their training. She's 5-3 or 5-4 and is a muscular 135. Sprinting is neurological, not muscular. She is a third baseman. Is your comment really even necessary? OMG I am now running a 4.80 and im still 10. Curious if people think summer travel and showcases, along with private coaching, will be enough for the right exposure. I use shuttle runs, and a variety of drills and games as well, this was actually the first year I've included hit scores. You must be signed in to continue. One of the difficulties is to fond timing references grids. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. Club experience: 34 years of high-level travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple-time All-Conference, All-Area, All-State honors, Club experience: 23 years of high-level travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple time All-Conference, All-Area, potential All-State honors, Club experience: 23 years playing travel baseball, Awards and accolades: multiple time All-Conference, All-Area honors, Pitch velocity: 84 MPH consistently; up to 95+ MPH, Walk less than 1 batter per 2 innings pitched, Control of one off-speed pitch and 1 additional pitch thrown to spots consistently, Walk around 1 batter per 2 innings pitcher, Control of at least one off-speed pitch and developing another, Coaches will take a closer look at catch and throw mechanics as well as the arm strength shown while throwing to 2nd and 3rd base, While defense comes first for a catcher, Division 1 coaches will also look for a player who demonstrates outstanding leadership skills and has the ability to work with the entire pitching staff, Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level, Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source), Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Pop Time: 2.0 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source), HR: 510 as a junior and senior in high school, Slugging: .750 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Needs to demonstrate the ability or potential to hit for power, A solid 1B recruit in this tier should have a few HRs and a lot of RBIs as a junior and senior in high school, HR: 510 as a junior and senior in high school, Infield Velocity: At least 80 MPH with the ability to improve through development, HR: At least 2 HR as a high school junior and senior, 60-yard dash: 6.56.8. 20 yard dummy flip (we use 40lb and 70lb dummies but you can use seabags filled with a mix of mulch and sand (dry the mulch out) and you can stiffen the bag with cardboard inside. He tops out at 85. Especially with a stupid sport coach that beats the hell out of the players. Check out the video below to hear third basemen recruiting advice from Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach. Why is there a jump in performance in the "older" age groups? The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. Very easy way to test for athletic ability and strength. Compensations are adjustments made, often unconsciously, to survive a task. But wait, this kid will run a 3.8 by the time hes 15 right? You can now validate in the eyes of Johnny and his father that the other guy is the starting RB. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. You might be the fastest slow person, but that doesnt make you a sprinter. Average 100 Yard Dash Time by Age. If sprinting is not timed, its not sprinting. Out of 30 kids we had 3 in the top group and ten in the next group. Like you said in the article, kids rarely fully sprint during practice, so am I on the right track by having his do speed and acceleration work on his off days? My 10yr old daughter ran the 80metre dash in 9.32secs. Hes still not a candidate to run on my 41, but he sure looks fast on the football field. He was recruited for Catcher. Hot This article is misleading at best. The incidence of ACL and Achilles injuries, even non-contact injuries, is rising, as anyone who watches football, basketball, or soccer knows. Thanks for the input as I always look for ways to improve my coaching skills. Plyometrics must be included. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. Rep Power: 3889. a 3.41 in the 20 is horrible, especially for someone of your body type, based on your stats. If you can get a decent 40yd time, youll have little trouble doing 100m. session per athlete). Ive got to say that I love so many of the things you said and the way you said them. Tony retired from teaching chemistry after 38 years in the classroom and has 39 years of coaching experience (football, basketball, and track). If you see a Freelap timing system, you know youre on the right track. Boys in the same age group run about 4 to 5 seconds faster than the girls. Top Quarterback 40-yard dash times. My wife is a doctor. Most kids learn to play their sport but never learn to sprint. My 3 yr does nothing but run around my 8,200 sq foot facility. The 60-yard dash is a short race that spans 60 yards and is most often used in professional baseball. I lettered in 4 sports in high school and played small D1 football and track(sprinting). Sub-max sprinting will not make kids faster. -60 Yard Dash: 7.25 or below-Should be able to hit for power as well as average. I like to steal Tony and Chads phrase speed grow like a tree. Truer words were never spoken!! These times were set in May and will be retested in November/December and then every 6 months. It also drives me crazy when they compare dunking to sprinting. Based on the graphs below, we expect T.J.s speed numbers to improve. And I dont have an amazing start. 5 years and 2 months 22-28 seconds. What makes that difficult for many recruits is that some coaches are willing to project earlier than others and athletes develop on different timelines. The sophomore dropped from a 7.2 to a 6.8 electronic. We train with elite, young athletes in Texas at a highly reputable speed development facility and have never seen a 5.45 40 posted by anyone younger than 11 years old. You can scroll back & see what they did & how they measured sometimes from 13-14 yo to present. BTW ive googled this and apparently their are just tons of kids out there running 4.1- 4.5s at 12-15. Luckily, there are several. Sticky For optimum effectiveness, kids must sprint two or three times a week. Of course anything faster is considered above average. All I hear from kids is they want to go D1 D1 D1, there is nothing wrong with D2, D3 or NAIA if you are playing for the right reasons aka love of the game, Ive seen too many kids who want to say they got a scholarship and love the idea they got a scholarship and quit because theyre burnt out. Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. Thanks for this great poste. As usual Tony tells it how it is with no sugar coating but with incredible insight. If someone gave you that time seriously both you and them are deluded. Most kids (other than the absolute stud outliers) need showcases/travel team exposure, even if they're starters in strong programs. Both measure lateral speed and quickness. When you say the school has a poor program I assume you mean the coaching is not from a very experienced coach and the team is not very competitive. Thanks, I have 18 kids and had one run in the 3.5-3.6 range(10 yr old) and one in the 3.8-3.9 range. In my opinion it is better to play at a school with a weaker program than to sit the bench a a school with a strong program. You didn't run your 30 yard dash in 3.54 seconds. *New Jersey Crew (973 and 201)* you jus mad cuz im stylin' on ya?? Thanks lot. Oftentimes you will see the scout wander over to the first base side and get his stopwatch ready when the kids comes up to bat. Jan 5, 2016. Oh, and BTW. My advice is to keep collecting data and stay patient. 5-10-5 shuttle time 5.129 5.179 5.18 5.257 20 yard sprint 3.013 3.051 3.052 40 yard sprint 5.783 5.671 5.705 3.087 5.687 11th grade 9th grade 10th grade junior high youth player physical measurables averages over 20,000 players measured since 2010 overhand throw velocity 58.37 57.38 58.45 56.25 Sub-max sprinting will not make kids faster. No training at all. Though you almost always have to sprint or workout to be actually fast. Whats new with Kinvents third-generation KForce force plates? I also hope you post that question to the board. Next some stats of what they did in high school. A local 2016 D1 recruit, whose parents apparently had money to burn, went to SIX showcases from 2012-2016. A twenty-year-old male usually runs the distance in about five seconds, while a thirty-year-old male has an average 40 yard dash time of 3.7 seconds. None of those 169 draftees, other than Caleb Benenoch (his published splits point to a possible error at the second gate), were able to break 2.00 seconds from 20-40 yards. Hi! My only disagreement is the multiple sport comment. Sprinting doesnt happen during a seven-mile run. She runs 100 meters in 14 seconds. I've run across lots of D1 recruits that don't even have a PG profile, much less a bunch a great numbers posted. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/ATHELTIC_SPEED_TIMES_FOR_KIDS_Age_5_to_14.docx. Update on Clayton whos now 14He just ran a handheld 40yd dash time of 4.43 at our speed camp (07.28.21). Is this good so far? If they arent wearing spikes, they arent sprinting. The equation squares a player's 40-time, 20-yard shuttle, and 3-cone and multiplies it by the square of a player's height, arm length, and vertical jump . Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. I understand individual improvements will vary and will concede that anomilies exist but is this typical? {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}Your submission failed. When can they train and actually work on speed? to be fast, you gotta go fast, The 20-yard shuttle (or short shuttle) tests an athlete's lateral quickness and change-of-direction ability. Times have changed. If youre in it for your benefit do us all a favor and get out of coaching. Results via Freelap and visual reinforcement are key. By the way, sprinting is the best strength exercise I know. 20-yard sprint: Run 60 feet to measure speed from home plate to first base. Two weeks ago our incoming freshman football players did a freelap 40 indoors on carpet with no spikes and he clocked in at 4.71 FAT. All Rights Reserved. You may also have some early video & can look at progression through the years. He always ran extremely well but his form now is greatly improved, I feel. Remember, sprinters pick up their feet, lift their knees, and then deliver vertical force. All things being equal, a prospect who has the will to practice hard is going to be recruited over a one who has the ability but not the work ethic. That said, we do love to hear about improvements players make. If we were to use the information people send us it would be a mess. Dont even bother to time a 40 Yd. If you are 7.0+, the scout probably isn't going to clock you home to 1st. 20 yard Pro Agility 6 Tire Zig Zag I dont want to over train him. I didnt compete against teams from other towns until 7th grade. Mindless weight lifting, grueling aerobic workouts, and multiple repeats of 200 meters have no place in sprint training. After a while, I was starting to think that I should move up and start doing 800m more but then I started doing a speed school and focused on top speed and acceleration. Im assuming the 40 times posted here for the 9 year old kid were recorded by hand. All of these are timed and then I add the times together and the lowest total times are the best athletes on the team. Good luck getting 8 guys to show up for the M95 100 meter dash. I didnt believe her so I timed him best of three was 5.68! Sprint mechanics must be taught. Recruits need to show the strength, speed and general athleticism to make the jump. Age 9 40yd 5.62, LJ 122, SB Throw 120, Turbo Jav 519. Mine was 3x week. Are these good times and distances. Prospects looking to get recruited cant control when they develop or what coaches think of them. If you are 6.5, then they probably start getting interested in how quickly you can get down the line, especially if you are a left handed batter. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. We are what we do. I was really just tying to find out what would be considered a normal 20 yd time and fast one. Anytime. Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level OBP: .500 Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source) ERA below 2.00 Division 2 Height: 6'0" Weight: 180 lbs. SPEED 60-Yard Dash Times (In Seconds) 80 . She is a hockey player and is faster than all the boys her age. The biggest hang up recruits or parents have is that while a recruit might be really good at the high school level, if they arent playing against college level competition, it isnt much help to a coach. When you do this, you need to start like you are stealing a base, crossover, and sprint the 60 yards. I've heard this a LOT. We live in Palm Beach, Florida. After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. Thanks for reading and sharing this. They only recommended that kid at his age play multiple sports. Once the weather allows we will do some out door parachute work to work on that time. Not Replied Got this from coach Jackson at Poteet a while back. I had to wait for mine to buy in before I was willing to spend the $$ ( he is 14). The only time I really look at breakway (40) is for my CB and RB and WR. If in fact he trained for a single drill, then he had someone really stupid giving him advice (except for maybe the last showcase when he brought the fastball). In short, yes, you can get the necessary experience and exposure from summer travel if that is the path you choose and choice of HS should not have "strength of baseball program" as a line item that weighs too heavily in the selection process. Although, I agree that max sprinting is effective, studies have shown that resistance training using sleds, parachutes, and resistance bands have improved speed at a faster rate than those who train without. Very helpful. Based on the age of the athlete, 0.4 - 0.7 s and 4 - 14 cm changes in the 40-yd and VJ, 800 meter dash: 2:35 Sometimes I see soccer players run faster than others, but I seldom see sprinting. The gap is smaller between elite females and non-elite males, but it's still insurmountable and that's ultimately what matters. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. Why does the chart not continue on to age 50, 60, 70 etc. I have been lucky to coach the boys in football and lacrosse for 11 years. If youre a youth or high school coach your #1 goal has to be making the kids that you work with better overall athletes And people. She's home to first in 2.8 and deadlifts 230. Ive witnessed the evolution of sports in America. I've heard pop times are difficult at times to control as the catchers start "cheating". In the summer, theyre basically playing everyday so I have to be cautious with sprint and strength volume. If the player is not willing to put in time away from the instructor, you are mostly wasting your $$. I think the problem with focusing is especially at the small school level you cant afford to have 3-5 kids specialize bc the other teams suffer. Too many ex-football players are addicted to the grind of football training. And yes, I won't veer from the thread anymore than I already have. +40 (724) 307.599 Lu - Vi: 9:00 - 18:00; average 20 yard dash time by age chart It is one of the reasons coaches caution showcasing early. A closer look, however, reveals Clayton is different. Here's some data for you, based on current PG percentiles this year: 2017: a 7.17sixty is the 50th percentile for the class of 2017 this year, 2018: a 7.31 sixty is the 51st percentile for the class of 2018 this year, 2019: a 7.41sixty is the 51st percentile for the class of 2019 this year, 2020: a 7.66 sixty is the 52nd percentile for the class of 2020 this year, 2021: a7.85 sixty is the 50th percentile for the class of 2021 this year. Baseball also commonly uses the 60 yard dash in testing. Youth sports have become a big deal. 100 yards is 91.44 meters. Typical soccer players run seven miles per match on average. Its not FA but Im very accurate with a stopwatch. DII Outfielder: 60 Yard Dash: 7.0 or below Home to 1st Time: 4.4 (RHH) 4.3 (LHH) Throwing Velocity: 82 + Ball Exit Velocity: 88 + I personally like to do a football speed time where I have the players holding a football and make two cuts during the run. Video analysis is a part of every reputable sprint program. Old 4 year old: 9.0just did this one today. MLB average also? The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. One of his favorite coaches noted that he needs to work on speed and recommended 10y sprints and 5-5-5 shuttles to work on speed; which we are doing, but Id like to get him in a more regimented, mature coaching structure than just me outside with him and a stopwatch.
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